The First Contactless Only Station (No Oyster)

oh, that is a NICE train

Are there plans to install ticket barriers at Brookmans Park?

Any discount for cash?

Everything is going to be super confusing during change over. But in places like London, with the Oyster, and NYC with OMNY, when the change over is complete. It should be super simple to use.
Everything is going contactless. London has already had contactless debit/credit cards for years, the USA is just adopting the technology. And with more and more phones starting to support contactless payment, it makes sense to just make everything the same thing.
And for those worrying about discounted rides, oyster and OMNY can easily set up a system that you register the debit/credit card you will regularly use to access your transportation system and when it detects that card, charge less.
I understand people will probably still have issues with not being able to put physical money into a physical machine and get a physical card and use that physical card. But in reality, cash will be a thing of the past in like 10-15 years. Everyone will be paying with plastic. So might as well get the systems in place now when you have time to teach people, then later when it's too late.

what happens if you don't know oyster isn't accepted and you arrive at this station and can't use your oyster to tap out? does it mess things up next time you use your oyster? will you get a penalty fare because you didnt pay?

No

Travelling around alone on trains all day. Geocaching. Creepy, creepy, creepy.

Sounds confusing. Are they phasing out oyster cards

Now we know why Labour wants to renationalise the railways.

This all seems ridiculously complicated. You can travel anywhere in Switzerland with an app www.sbb.ch/en/timetable/mobile-apps/sbb-mobile/easyride.html which works out where you are and what kind of transport you're on (train, tram, bus ...), calculates the fare taking into account any reductions (like the half-fare card) and charges you using your credit card details.

So I do I get a contactless card. Pls explain , I am a foreigner

Any android version of oyster error app?

they still have zone 0 free

Zone 10, or Zone A consists of Watford Junction (sometimes called Zone W), and c2c stations out to Grays (sometimes called Zone G)
Zone 11, or Zone B, consists of the stations out to Hertford not covered by numbered zones, as well as Potters Bar and Radlett
Zone 12, or Zone C, is Shenfield station
Zone 13, or Zone D, consists of the stations between zone 6 and Gatwick Airport
Zone 14, or Zone E, is Gatwick Airport station
Zone 15, or Zone F, is reserved for Elizabeth line stations out to Reading[2]
The following stations are inside the Oyster zonal system, but special fares apply:

i have a freedom pass and ive checked my balance its says zone to to zone f whats is zone f

this man always looks like someone tipped a bucket of water over him 2 seconds ago

Wow, you've aged badly. Your old videos were much better

Hi Geoff, really interesting video, not from London myself but travel there for work regular, you sure can put your point across, actually learnt something in the process. You’ve changed my life, as for the passed 23 years I’ve been making websites, brochures and web docs, I’m going to pay more thought into my next ones. Thanks

Sounds confusing... I'm glad I only come down to the South East and use the transport in London (tubes or trains) a few times a year

So what if you’re 13 and you don’t have a contactless card?

Surely it's simple enough to understand? You can use 'Oyster' within a certain prescribed zone, and then outside of that area you make payment in another way -- and since contactless is the easy alternative in widespread use, it makes sense to use that!

Why make it simple when you can make it complicated?

What's the plan regarding Reading West? As all current ticket to Reading say "Reading Stations". Why can there only be 15 zones?

I'm going to London in January, the pricing system is so stupid. Why?

does it work with foreign cards?

Why do contactless card users have to *tap* in and out?

But I do not have contact less - That is annoying

got it - SO simple ! - oyster tap - or contactless tap - paper ticket dont tap (could be cheaper) - tap tap tap tap tap tap crap

6:28 Wipe off the Logo and you can use this anywhere in England, works for me.

I just don’t understand why the Tube fare system is so complicated, unlike the Navigo in Paris area. However your trains look much better than the metros and commuter trains here in France. Really hope that some day I could try it.
(Don’t panic Brits, I’ll come by train or by air, not by lorry. Really sorry for what happened, I feel very ashamed although I literally have nothing to do with it)

As if London wasnt bad enough already.

Great to see a whole train with one bod on it though. Makes a nice change

Why would you do this?

What's the point your giving a way a card for another card, seems pointless.

And that's why I LOVE living in Île de France

Does that mean that Heathrow will be in zone 15

We (meaning beyond Potters Bar) were promised Oyster all the way from Potters Bar up to Welwyn Garden City. But alas, they broke their promise and stopped at Potters Bar. But it looks like they're trying to compromise by giving us contactless. I was furious when I found out and still am. Seriously, Hertford North- a station barely anyone goes to gets Oyster, but Hatfield, a town with a freaking University and frequent commuters to and from London doesn't? Tfl just don't have their priorities right.

Stealing more money.

How does this work for people with railcards?
My DPR can’t be used with my contactless card and is paired to my oyster.

At this rate the whole of England will be London, with 245 zones.

I've never seen a person so interested in TFL.

This is so brainless! What about overseas tourists? Do you expect them to use say their credit card from Australia which will charged an overseas transaction fee...

Does this mean the Oyster is going to be phased out?

Nerrrrrrrrrd. ;)

Why aren’t you going to be able to use oyster?

I've watched for 13 minutes and still don't get it. Why does 1 random station not accept Oyster?

Hey Geoff, I took a round trip on the St Albans Abbey branch line on the 02/11/2019 and I noticed that each of the line’s stations have contactless readers on the platform, which I think have only recently been installed, but are not activated just yet. The contactless readers on the Abbey Line stations are different to the Oyster style one at Brookmans Park station because I think they are West Midlands Trains’ very own ones. You might want to get in touch with West Midlands Trains to find out when they will be activating those contactless readers and you could do a video about them.

Call me an old traditionalist but I prefer to occasionally to use good old cash when it's convenient to.

I have it easy. 2 trains a week..one east one west.
Bob Alberta

But how can you use contactless if it doesn't know where you traveled from?

what a mess. in melbourne, australia we have a single system with 2 zones for traveling around melbourne. although for longer distances there is another rail company.
I don't think we can use bank cards though.

Even though I don't live in the UK I find having different type of payment accepted is weird. Why not just accept one type of payment method it would make it more easy on people.

Something very scary about all this!

I bet you are a hoot at parties....

Thanks FLash-player. Never been to London and i live on the otherside of the world. Just watched a 13 minute on a train station in North London!

So... basically you’re saying that Zone 16+ will never happen?

I don’t like the idea of this... I would much rather use my Oyster card, I find it a lot easier to budget and I also think the Oyster card is fun! I live outside London and look forward to using it when I visit. Why complicate things? I understand that technically some stations might not be “London” and therefore they don’t count on the Oyster scheme, but it would make much more sense to me to have a big barrier or an announcement to tell people that “this is no longer “London”, so you need a new ticket”. I don’t know...

Hold up! How long has Epsom been contactless??

so ominous

What a load of shit. Oyster cards are used around london because otherwise the bills come through up to a week later 🙄

Can tell hell be a pain if he got nicked