The First Contactless Only Station (No Oyster)

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  • Published on Oct 7, 2019
  • On the London Rail and Tube Map, Brookmans Park has appeared with a 'Contactless' symbol next to it, denoting it can be used for Contactless PAYG travel, but NOT Oyster cards!
    You can still use a paper ticket - as always - of course, but there's more of these to come, with nine stations about to appear on the Tube Map which will also be Contactless Only/No Oyster. I went for a ride to Brooksmans Park to investigate.
    With thanks to Mike from the 'Oyster Rail' website. For so much information about Oyster/Contacless and your questions answered, have a look at Mike's amazing site: www.oyster-rail.org.uk/
    Download London's rail and Tube services map here: tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/national-rail
    Get the Oyster Errors App: apps.apple.com/gb/app/oyster-errors-revealing-secret/id886704291
    Read the TfL Press Release here: tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2019/september/tfl-rail-to-operate-services-to-reading-from-15-december

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  • Ethan Johnstone
    Ethan Johnstone 4 days ago

    oh, that is a NICE train

  • Henrys Adventures
    Henrys Adventures 8 days ago

    Are there plans to install ticket barriers at Brookmans Park?

  • Andrew Morley
    Andrew Morley 8 days ago

    Any discount for cash?

  • TheElaborinth8993
    TheElaborinth8993 9 days ago

    Everything is going to be super confusing during change over. But in places like London, with the Oyster, and NYC with OMNY, when the change over is complete. It should be super simple to use.
    Everything is going contactless. London has already had contactless debit/credit cards for years, the USA is just adopting the technology. And with more and more phones starting to support contactless payment, it makes sense to just make everything the same thing.
    And for those worrying about discounted rides, oyster and OMNY can easily set up a system that you register the debit/credit card you will regularly use to access your transportation system and when it detects that card, charge less.
    I understand people will probably still have issues with not being able to put physical money into a physical machine and get a physical card and use that physical card. But in reality, cash will be a thing of the past in like 10-15 years. Everyone will be paying with plastic. So might as well get the systems in place now when you have time to teach people, then later when it's too late.

  • Steffi Moos
    Steffi Moos 11 days ago

    what happens if you don't know oyster isn't accepted and you arrive at this station and can't use your oyster to tap out? does it mess things up next time you use your oyster? will you get a penalty fare because you didnt pay?

  • S D
    S D 11 days ago

    No

  • Matthew Smith
    Matthew Smith 12 days ago

    Travelling around alone on trains all day. Geocaching. Creepy, creepy, creepy.

  • John Tempest
    John Tempest 12 days ago

    Sounds confusing. Are they phasing out oyster cards

  • williamgeorgefraser
    williamgeorgefraser 13 days ago +5

    Now we know why Labour wants to renationalise the railways.

  • bikerpaul68
    bikerpaul68 13 days ago

    This all seems ridiculously complicated. You can travel anywhere in Switzerland with an app www.sbb.ch/en/timetable/mobile-apps/sbb-mobile/easyride.html which works out where you are and what kind of transport you're on (train, tram, bus ...), calculates the fare taking into account any reductions (like the half-fare card) and charges you using your credit card details.

  • Charles So
    Charles So 13 days ago

    So I do I get a contactless card. Pls explain , I am a foreigner

  • Mr Moon
    Mr Moon 14 days ago

    Any android version of oyster error app?

  • Dawid Pietrzak
    Dawid Pietrzak 15 days ago

    they still have zone 0 free

  • Mohammed Azizur Rahman

    Zone 10, or Zone A consists of Watford Junction (sometimes called Zone W), and c2c stations out to Grays (sometimes called Zone G)
    Zone 11, or Zone B, consists of the stations out to Hertford not covered by numbered zones, as well as Potters Bar and Radlett
    Zone 12, or Zone C, is Shenfield station
    Zone 13, or Zone D, consists of the stations between zone 6 and Gatwick Airport
    Zone 14, or Zone E, is Gatwick Airport station
    Zone 15, or Zone F, is reserved for Elizabeth line stations out to Reading[2]
    The following stations are inside the Oyster zonal system, but special fares apply:

  • Mohammed Azizur Rahman

    i have a freedom pass and ive checked my balance its says zone to to zone f whats is zone f

  • festus bojangles
    festus bojangles 21 day ago

    this man always looks like someone tipped a bucket of water over him 2 seconds ago

  • cypher
    cypher 22 days ago

    Wow, you've aged badly. Your old videos were much better

  • Phill Crean
    Phill Crean 23 days ago

    Hi Geoff, really interesting video, not from London myself but travel there for work regular, you sure can put your point across, actually learnt something in the process. You’ve changed my life, as for the passed 23 years I’ve been making websites, brochures and web docs, I’m going to pay more thought into my next ones. Thanks

  • Phil England
    Phil England 23 days ago

    Sounds confusing... I'm glad I only come down to the South East and use the transport in London (tubes or trains) a few times a year

  • Abdullah Ibrahimi
    Abdullah Ibrahimi 24 days ago

    So what if you’re 13 and you don’t have a contactless card?

  • M Munroe
    M Munroe 27 days ago

    Surely it's simple enough to understand? You can use 'Oyster' within a certain prescribed zone, and then outside of that area you make payment in another way -- and since contactless is the easy alternative in widespread use, it makes sense to use that!

  • Nick Hill
    Nick Hill 27 days ago

    Why make it simple when you can make it complicated?

  • Henrys Adventures
    Henrys Adventures 28 days ago

    What's the plan regarding Reading West? As all current ticket to Reading say "Reading Stations". Why can there only be 15 zones?

    • Matthew Smith
      Matthew Smith 12 days ago +1

      Hopefully Reading West, and Reading in it's entirety, will be razed to the ground before the Tube line extends there.

  • Jesus Izquierdo
    Jesus Izquierdo 29 days ago

    I'm going to London in January, the pricing system is so stupid. Why?

  • Alex's film-house
    Alex's film-house 29 days ago

    does it work with foreign cards?

  • Andy Merrett
    Andy Merrett 29 days ago

    Why do contactless card users have to *tap* in and out?

  • Lossy Lossnitzer
    Lossy Lossnitzer 29 days ago

    But I do not have contact less - That is annoying

    • Matthew Smith
      Matthew Smith 12 days ago

      But do you have a contact lens? This is important of you can't see, which I'm not assuming by the way. Let's make that clear.

  • roger sea
    roger sea 29 days ago

    got it - SO simple ! - oyster tap - or contactless tap - paper ticket dont tap (could be cheaper) - tap tap tap tap tap tap crap

  • Enthusiastisch 1
    Enthusiastisch 1 Month ago

    6:28 Wipe off the Logo and you can use this anywhere in England, works for me.

  • Long Giang Ngô
    Long Giang Ngô Month ago

    I just don’t understand why the Tube fare system is so complicated, unlike the Navigo in Paris area. However your trains look much better than the metros and commuter trains here in France. Really hope that some day I could try it.
    (Don’t panic Brits, I’ll come by train or by air, not by lorry. Really sorry for what happened, I feel very ashamed although I literally have nothing to do with it)

  • DriftZ TwoSeven
    DriftZ TwoSeven Month ago

    As if London wasnt bad enough already.

    Great to see a whole train with one bod on it though. Makes a nice change

  • EllaNora
    EllaNora Month ago

    Why would you do this?

  • Can Kabayel
    Can Kabayel Month ago

    What's the point your giving a way a card for another card, seems pointless.

  • omegaPe
    omegaPe Month ago

    And that's why I LOVE living in Île de France

  • Andrew Cowling
    Andrew Cowling Month ago

    Does that mean that Heathrow will be in zone 15

  • Rebekah Segun
    Rebekah Segun Month ago

    We (meaning beyond Potters Bar) were promised Oyster all the way from Potters Bar up to Welwyn Garden City. But alas, they broke their promise and stopped at Potters Bar. But it looks like they're trying to compromise by giving us contactless. I was furious when I found out and still am. Seriously, Hertford North- a station barely anyone goes to gets Oyster, but Hatfield, a town with a freaking University and frequent commuters to and from London doesn't? Tfl just don't have their priorities right.

  • You're Not That Guy

    Stealing more money.

  • Richard Foster
    Richard Foster Month ago +1

    How does this work for people with railcards?
    My DPR can’t be used with my contactless card and is paired to my oyster.

  • WISE창완
    WISE창완 Month ago

    At this rate the whole of England will be London, with 245 zones.

  • StuntMenLive
    StuntMenLive Month ago

    I've never seen a person so interested in TFL.

  • Pete Lemin KT
    Pete Lemin KT Month ago

    This is so brainless! What about overseas tourists? Do you expect them to use say their credit card from Australia which will charged an overseas transaction fee...

  • Seph Shewell Brockway
    Seph Shewell Brockway Month ago +1

    Does this mean the Oyster is going to be phased out?

  • Seph Shewell Brockway

    Nerrrrrrrrrd. ;)

  • George Keech
    George Keech Month ago +1

    Why aren’t you going to be able to use oyster?

  • JoeMercersWay
    JoeMercersWay Month ago

    I've watched for 13 minutes and still don't get it. Why does 1 random station not accept Oyster?

  • Chris 125
    Chris 125 Month ago

    Hey Geoff, I took a round trip on the St Albans Abbey branch line on the 02/11/2019 and I noticed that each of the line’s stations have contactless readers on the platform, which I think have only recently been installed, but are not activated just yet. The contactless readers on the Abbey Line stations are different to the Oyster style one at Brookmans Park station because I think they are West Midlands Trains’ very own ones. You might want to get in touch with West Midlands Trains to find out when they will be activating those contactless readers and you could do a video about them.

  • RJ S
    RJ S Month ago +1

    Call me an old traditionalist but I prefer to occasionally to use good old cash when it's convenient to.

  • Bob Parsons
    Bob Parsons Month ago

    I have it easy. 2 trains a week..one east one west.
    Bob Alberta

  • Keith Whitty
    Keith Whitty Month ago +1

    But how can you use contactless if it doesn't know where you traveled from?

  • 1wsx10
    1wsx10 Month ago

    what a mess. in melbourne, australia we have a single system with 2 zones for traveling around melbourne. although for longer distances there is another rail company.
    I don't think we can use bank cards though.

  • MorganShai
    MorganShai Month ago

    Even though I don't live in the UK I find having different type of payment accepted is weird. Why not just accept one type of payment method it would make it more easy on people.

  • Jill Hingyi
    Jill Hingyi Month ago

    Something very scary about all this!

  • john turner
    john turner Month ago

    I bet you are a hoot at parties....

  • Chilith
    Chilith Month ago

    Thanks FLash-player. Never been to London and i live on the otherside of the world. Just watched a 13 minute on a train station in North London!

  • Max Playz YT
    Max Playz YT Month ago

    So... basically you’re saying that Zone 16+ will never happen?

  • LGcompetitions
    LGcompetitions Month ago +1

    I don’t like the idea of this... I would much rather use my Oyster card, I find it a lot easier to budget and I also think the Oyster card is fun! I live outside London and look forward to using it when I visit. Why complicate things? I understand that technically some stations might not be “London” and therefore they don’t count on the Oyster scheme, but it would make much more sense to me to have a big barrier or an announcement to tell people that “this is no longer “London”, so you need a new ticket”. I don’t know...

  • Charlie Hinde
    Charlie Hinde Month ago

    Hold up! How long has Epsom been contactless??

  • juses - jimmy bars
    juses - jimmy bars Month ago

    so ominous

  • Cxty Hippie
    Cxty Hippie Month ago

    What a load of shit. Oyster cards are used around london because otherwise the bills come through up to a week later 🙄

  • Peter Wickendon
    Peter Wickendon Month ago

    Can tell hell be a pain if he got nicked