Patrick Mahomes wouldn’t be as great without his offensive weapons - Stephen A. | First Take

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  • Published on Jan 20, 2020
  • Max Kellerman, Stephen A. Smith and Dan Orlovsky debate whether Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes has had great success because of the offensive weapons he has surrounding him in Kansas City.
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  • Lebogang Legodi
    Lebogang Legodi Day ago

    The greatest player any in every team sport, need compatible players around him. Stop this nonsense that the greatest are great alone without great teammatesy

  • Estro Denaro
    Estro Denaro 14 days ago

    Best WR group in the NFL period

  • Christopher Gutierrez
    Christopher Gutierrez 17 days ago

    Im sorry Stephen A, but this is complete stupidity, give me one great QB that didn’t have a great WR

  • Cheerioss -
    Cheerioss - 19 days ago

    What a hot take by SAS

  • Jrock420blam
    Jrock420blam 19 days ago

    No one would be as great without their weapons. What a profoundly stupid argument to make. So Brady's legacy is forever in question because his stats aren't the same without Randy Moss as they were with him? Same with Joe Montana without Rice....

  • Bryce Rutt
    Bryce Rutt 20 days ago

    At 1:46 did Dan really say the Rams had Watkins last year? Like come on man!

  • Santiago Molina
    Santiago Molina 22 days ago

    Bruh

  • Corey Gilmore
    Corey Gilmore 22 days ago

    I don’t understand what SAS talking about. Which greats don’t have greats around them, I hate being confused.

  • Shandog southwest
    Shandog southwest 22 days ago

    Of course its the weapons if thats the case he should be a Champ putting his title on the line lol 😭😭😂😂 see how good he is when he cant have them weapons when he get paid lol it hurt dont it next up lol 😂😂😭😭😭 nobody will ever do wat the Goat has done for as long so go kill yall self lol 😭😭😂😂

  • Inner G
    Inner G 22 days ago

    Isn’t that the point is to have a great team not just a quarterback? You are suppose to have skilled teammates lol

  • zaying Hui
    zaying Hui 23 days ago +1

    That’s every qb besides Brady and Rodgers

  • Joe Hurtig
    Joe Hurtig 23 days ago

    Not 1 receiver on the Chiefs roster was drafted in the first round (except Watkins who was drafted by the Bills in 2014...and not a primary target). The receivers that were on the roster before Mahomes were considered good, but not great...they didn’t make Alex Smith great. Face it, Mahomes is a once-in-a-lifetime talent...not question!

  • James Mcclain
    James Mcclain 23 days ago

    This is the dumbest analysis how can a quarterback be good if he doesn’t have a supporting cast people have said oh Tom Brady doesn’t have the weapons to win come on man I’ve never seen a quarterback win a game alone this is a team sport so this conversation is a waste of time that’s like a boxer who is undefeated and good but a person says he hasn’t fought anyone he can’t help it if no one in his class can beat him and he doesn’t duck and dodge anyone stupid conversation

  • Brandon Miley
    Brandon Miley 23 days ago

    The only difference between Alex Smith’s team and Mahomes’ team is one player and that player is Pat Mahomes. Mahomes’ team is a near copy and paste of Smith’s. The WRs, RB, and TE are the exact same. Smith lost to the titans and Mahomes is in the Super Bowl. SAS argument is “completely asinine” and borderline “ blasphemous!”

  • Silent_MajorityUSAF 88

    Bengals should have hired Eric Bienemy.
    He played for the Bengals in the 90s. He's proven that he can coach. I.dont even wanna get into it.. Makes me mad.
    Yet.. We have Zac Taylor. Smh

  • Mike johnson
    Mike johnson 24 days ago +1

    Facts with the only time I agree with him

  • DennisRadman
    DennisRadman 25 days ago

    QBs had better weapons and looked half as good

  • Michael Herrera
    Michael Herrera 25 days ago

    This is the dumbest thing to ever be said on any show I’ve ever watched. SAS should be fired after this argument.

  • Chris Martinez
    Chris Martinez 25 days ago

    you on crack like lamar odom my guy

  • Mr Boojoui
    Mr Boojoui 25 days ago

    Orlovsky doesn’t belong in this conversation. He’s not smart enough

  • Shakeed Washington
    Shakeed Washington 25 days ago

    The Rams skill position players were better last yr than the Chiefs now and Goff didn't look like Mahomes.. Stephen A trippin

  • Eugene Blyther
    Eugene Blyther 25 days ago

    When you building a football team you want the best players u can possibly find YALL STOP HATING ON THE CHIEFS FIRST TAKE

  • Geoff Foster
    Geoff Foster 25 days ago

    Errr ... I'm pretty sure Alex Smith had Tyreek, Kelce and a 1000+ yard running back in Kareem Hunt - which is more than can be said of this Kansas City squad. Don't recall him getting as hot as Mahomes.

  • LowLip McGee
    LowLip McGee 26 days ago

    Newsflash Stephen A, Alex Smith had the exact same Weapons a year before Pat started, what did he ever do with them? Oh yea... NOTHING

  • CQB315
    CQB315 26 days ago

    Mahomes: Kelce, Hill
    Big Ben: Leveon, AB, Juju
    Rodgers: Davante, Aaron Jones
    Brees: Kamara, Thomas
    Matt Ryan: Julio, Ridley
    Dak: Zeke, Cooper
    Jimmy G: Kittle, Sanders, Deebo

    Give Mahomes any of these other weapons, he doin the same thing. Stephen A., im sorry but Williams, Watkins, and Hardman are not elite lol. They're only really good right now because of the greatness of Mahomes.

  • Joe Salinas
    Joe Salinas 26 days ago

    Stephen A Smith just needs to retire because he is constantly wrong about everything foot ball baseball basketball the guy just doesn't get it always wrong give it up Stephen A Smith

  • Ian B
    Ian B 26 days ago

    how could you say that when you keep complaining about Brady needs weapons and LA has them...y'all sound so dumb sometimes

  • Anthony Williams
    Anthony Williams 26 days ago

    SAS: “Hey let’s just make up some bs to cycle over the airwaves”🤔🤔
    Max: hey Stephen A.....
    SAS: Max don’t interrupt me
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • Chavaute' Busby
    Chavaute' Busby 26 days ago

    So could Ryan tannehill be as good with those receivers?

  • rainbowremo
    rainbowremo 26 days ago

    No QB in the league would be AS good as they are without some of their offensive weapons. That's literally just a fact. Some qbs are able to overachieve with their weapons, like russell wilson, which I don't think mahomes would do as well, but we don't know

  • Daran Thomas
    Daran Thomas 26 days ago

    Stephen A your wrong and here’s why
    Patrick Mahomes is still Patrick Mahomes with or without them weapons they help him more than not but he still is that good flat out and this is coming from a Steelers fan

  • Planet 9 Genisys Jedi
    Planet 9 Genisys Jedi 26 days ago

    Stephen a smith thinks R1 R2 L1 L2 left down right up left down right up is not a cheat code 😂.. he’s all over the place when it comes to football lol

  • William Nimbach
    William Nimbach 26 days ago

    Sure he is in superbowl this year but he still never beat Brady belichick or the Patriots in the playoffs

  • Coach Adam Taylor
    Coach Adam Taylor 26 days ago

    SAS is the worst analyst ever! Did u see Pat Mahomes at TTU? Every qb needs weapons to be successful who hasnt had weapons and still has finished as a great SAS? I'll wait. Dude do you know anything about football.

  • boydnchrist
    boydnchrist 26 days ago

    Skip and Stephen A be sharing notes.

  • Derek D
    Derek D 26 days ago

    I loved Alex Smith when he was here and I wish him the best but if he was still lined up under center instead of Mahomes when we went down 24 points against the Texans it would have been over. In 2017 Smith had Kelce, Hill, AND Hunt and the best we could do was go 10-6 and lose in the Wild Card YET AGAIN. So as talented as the guys around him are Mahomes has been the influencer for the elevation of play not the other way around. Everybody sees it but only the haters don't want to admit it sadly.

  • Matt RG
    Matt RG 26 days ago

    Stephen A made the greatest point of all time directed towards Max at the end saying Durant is only great because of his team mates then out of the other side of his mouth says Mahomes is the greatest! Bang spot on Stephen A salute you

  • Shan 323
    Shan 323 26 days ago

    Would those weapons look as good with tannehill

  • ricky j
    ricky j 26 days ago

    The frog man is going to be tom Brady 2.0. The league is going to make him the face and surround him with all the talent to overinflate his skills

  • J Mac
    J Mac 26 days ago

    Can't agree with Steven A. Smith about this one. He's reaching.

  • Rich H
    Rich H 26 days ago

    This is why ESPN sucks.

  • RoadrocketEst57
    RoadrocketEst57 27 days ago +1

    Isn't having the best and most weapons the goal of all teams? Mahomes may the weapon making others great

  • Peter Lazo
    Peter Lazo 27 days ago

    SAS is washed up with his takes now a days

  • Richard Bambenek
    Richard Bambenek 27 days ago +1

    Look at some of the games of Mahomes when he was at Texas Tech. He was great back then. Keep in mind football is a team sport and all players need to contribute to success.

  • Macky Mode
    Macky Mode 27 days ago

    Wow basketball ain't football Stephen A you fail

  • Peter Toadstone
    Peter Toadstone 27 days ago

    I hate when people talk about college draft picks. That has nothing to do with it. Brady was a 6rh round pick.

  • kyle
    kyle 27 days ago +1

    Tom Brady wouldn’t be as great without his offensive weapons
    Payton Manning wouldn’t be as great without his offensive weapons
    Joe Montana wouldn’t be as great without his offensive weapons
    Big Ben wouldn’t be as great without his offensive weapons
    Aaron Rodgers wouldn’t be as great without his offensive weapons
    Kurt Warner wouldn’t be as great without his offensive weapons
    You can say this about any great quarterback ever. It’s a stupid argument. It’s a team sport.

  • Butch Davis
    Butch Davis 27 days ago

    Mahomes is out of this world, his weapons and Andy have made him historic. All of it combined are why I'm going around telling people that he's better than Joe Montana and Steve Young ever were ...and I'm right about it too

  • Peter Toadstone
    Peter Toadstone 27 days ago

    Mahomes is great, but give any average QB this offence and they would look much, much better.

  • Song Says
    Song Says 27 days ago +1

    How ridiculous. Every QB owes his success to the OL, RBs, receivers, TE. It's a team sport.

  • Wintuscotty
    Wintuscotty 27 days ago

    His weapons? So Steve compares QBs by the receivers they have to throw to? Does Steve even, actually watch the games he comments on?

  • Lamalas Elansie
    Lamalas Elansie 27 days ago +1

    Alex Smith had most of the same weapons, AND had a great run game. No where near the production. Steven A, you are making yourself look the fool more than normal.

  • Chris Ayo
    Chris Ayo 27 days ago

    Them losing Kareem hunt and pat Mahomes being able to do what he been doin shows you how PATRICK MAHOMES is and will end up being the greatest QB ever not only can be throw like Brady and Rogers but move around in the pocket he not no statue like Brady is

  • Chris Ayo
    Chris Ayo 27 days ago

    Stephen a take is dumb what great QB didn’t have weapons

  • GMS Hagnos Anastrophe
    GMS Hagnos Anastrophe 27 days ago

    Mahomes was drafted by the chiefs SAS, c'mon bruh!

  • Gim Bright
    Gim Bright 27 days ago +1

    Why didn't y'all say this about Lamar. I think it applies to him more...

  • John Smith
    John Smith 27 days ago +1

    A quarterback is only as good as the talent around him. You could throw the best looking pass in the world, but if no one catches it then you don't get a completion...smh

  • GMS Hagnos Anastrophe
    GMS Hagnos Anastrophe 27 days ago

    Yall kill me with all the "what ifs" when yall picks don't work

  • Skinny Sweaty Man
    Skinny Sweaty Man 27 days ago

    Usain Bolt wouldn't be that great if he didn't have legs.

  • G Dabbs
    G Dabbs 27 days ago +1

    Honestly, I hate that sports analysts do this. How are you going to call a team great and say the players are elite, then call their individual greatness into question and try to cause rifts to make someone go on their own and “prove” themselves as an individual. Just be happy with their team as a whole. I’m sick of people questioning players based on the people around them. That’s how anyone becomes great. This question is ridiculous